Who do you talk to when everyone around you has a stake?
Someone who earns nothing from any answer: no mandate, no share in the outcome, paid per conversation and bound in writing to confidentiality. Family has history, advisers have mandates, employees have careers, friends have feelings; each colours what you hear. Winn Chelini is that person: an independent sparring partner in Zürich, on the Gold Coast and in Zug.
Why does it get quieter around you as responsibility grows?
Not because you know fewer people. It gets quieter because every new responsibility changes the relationships you already have. People who depend on you weigh what they say. People who sell to you listen with a goal. People who love you listen with worry.
Four reasons the conversation about the real question does not happen:
- Family has history. Your wife or husband may have given up a career to move to Switzerland with you, and hears what the question means for both of you.
- Advisers have mandates. Fiduciary, lawyer and bank work for you, often well, but every answer is tied to their brief. Legitimate, not neutral.
- Employees have careers. Your leadership team, your assistant, the colleague you trust: they all know you have a say in their future.
- Friends have feelings. Few know what it means to be responsible for a payroll or a large estate, and for many people who moved here the closest ones now live in another time zone.
None of this is an accusation. Interests are normal. The problem starts when you have to decide and every voice around you has a reason to tell you one particular thing.
None of this requires a company of your own. If you have inherited, or share your life with someone who runs a company, you will recognise the situation. The bank wants to keep the mandate, the family office its role, and your siblings have their own ideas about what should happen to the family house or the shares. Each of these voices is legitimate, and each has an interest in the outcome. If what you yourself want stays open, it is easy to sign what others have prepared.
Who in your circle can do what, and what can they not do?
Four criteria: interest in the outcome, reach of confidentiality, cost, and what the conversation is good for.
| Counterpart | Interest in the outcome | Confidentiality | Cost | Good for |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Spouse, partner | Directly affected: money, time, where you live | High, but not neutral | No fee | Backing; what the decision means for both of you |
| Fiduciary (Treuhänder) | Ongoing mandate, often for years | Contractual and data protection law; as a rule no professional secrecy under Art. 321 Criminal Code | Hourly fee | Figures, tax, structure, once you know what you want |
| Lawyer | Mandate; fees for the execution | Professional secrecy under Art. 321 Criminal Code | Hourly fee | Contracts, risk, disputes; not whether you want the contract |
| Board | Loyalty to the company (Art. 717 Code of Obligations), not to you | Within the board; minutes | Fees paid by the company | Strategy, oversight; difficult when the question is about you |
| Bank | Often earns on mandates, products, credit | Bank-client confidentiality (Art. 47 Banking Act) | In margins and fees | Financing, investment, after you have decided |
| Peer group, CEO circle | Low; but the same market | A group rule; whether it is in writing depends on the provider | Membership fee | Exchange among equals; less so for the very personal question |
| Coach | None in the outcome; usually designed as several sessions | Contractual; no professional secrecy | Often disclosed only on request | Development over months, with a method |
| Sparring partner | None; no mandate, no commission, no success fee | In writing, with three limits: a legally binding order of a court or authority, acute danger to life and limb, the welfare of a child | Per conversation, no subscription, no package; a fixed fee by format and length, named in the first, confidential conversation | The question before the question: what do I want, and why am I hesitating? |
Almost everyone is good for something specific: the lawyer for the contract, not for whether you want it; the CEO circle listens, but sits in your market; the coach often gives no opinion on principle. The roles are set out in Sparring partner, coach, mentor or consultant: what is the difference?
The last row of the table deserves a plain sentence: a sparring partner is paid too, per conversation, by you, at a fixed fee that depends on the format and the length, never on who you are. What is missing is everything else: no mandate that runs longer if you hesitate, no commission that grows if you sell, no career inside your company. That is what makes every one of your answers worth the same to me. On the legal reach of a coach’s confidentiality: Is coaching confidential in Switzerland? What the law says.
Alone or lonely: what is the difference?
You are alone with a decision when nobody can take it off you. That comes with the role. Lonely is something else: a lasting sense of not being seen, even where people are.
Most of the people who call me are not lonely. They have a family, friends, a team. What they lack is an hour to think aloud without consequences for the company, the mood at home or a colleague’s career. For someone who arrived in Zug two years ago, with the closest friends six time zones away, that hour is harder to find. As a rule it is a structural problem, and a structure can solve it.
If sleep has been missing for weeks, if nothing gives you pleasure any more, or if thoughts of harming yourself appear, the first address is your family doctor or a psychotherapist, not a sparring partner. I do not diagnose, and I will tell you if you need more than a conversation; see also what sparring is and what it is not.
What do surveys of CEOs show?
For an article in the Harvard Business Review of 23 December 2024, 109 CEOs of major Canadian organisations were surveyed and 46 interviewed. The finding is sober: their loneliness stems not from a lack of social connections but from the burden of leadership and decision-making, most acutely in a crisis. What is missing is not people to talk to, but people to decide with.
Two older US surveys from 2012 are often mixed up. RHR International surveyed 100 CEOs; 41 percent had experienced loneliness in the job (Fortune, 29 June 2012). Separately, Thomas Saporito reported in the Harvard Business Review of 15 February 2012 on an RHR survey of 83 US CEOs: half felt lonely, and 61 percent of those saw their performance affected. Both figures are old, small and American. As a rough guide: four in ten to half of the CEOs asked know the feeling. Nothing more.
I know of no comparable Swiss survey; here the question shows in language rather than studies: a German-language podcast for business owners titled one episode simply “Mit wem soll ich reden?”, who should I talk to. Almost word for word, that is how most people who call me put it.
What does a conversation without an agenda look like?
You name the topic; I bring none, no model, no slides. You tell me, in English or German, what is on your mind. I ask which assumption has never been tested and what is missing from the story, then tell you what I see, including the angle you would rather not hear. I spent many years as an engineer on large projects and am used to putting assumptions on the table before anyone builds on them. Push back.
At the end we note what you do next: a decision, a conversation you want to have, or deliberately nothing yet. One conversation is often enough; if a deadline is pressing, read A decision under time pressure: why one conversation is often enough. I come to your home, your office or a quiet place in Zug, Zürich, on the Gold Coast or in Wollerau and Pfäffikon SZ; nobody sees you walk into a practice. By arrangement: mostly in the evening, on Mondays also during the day, and on Saturdays and Sundays. Essentials: What is a sparring partner in business and in private life?; formats and how it works: Sparring.
In short
It does not get quieter around you because people are missing, but because almost everyone around you has an interest in the outcome. Specialists, family and friends are the right people for a great deal, but rarely for the question of what you yourself want. For that you need, once, someone who earns nothing from any particular answer: bound in writing to confidentiality with the three limits named above, paid per conversation and without a mandate.
If you would like to think this question through with someone who has no stake in it: Winn Chelini, independent confidant and sparring partner in Zürich, on the Gold Coast and in Zug. The first step is a confidential conversation – 20 minutes, by phone or video, free and with no follow-up from my side.
Short answers
Questions on this topic
Does a sparring partner not earn from me as well?
Yes, per conversation, no subscription, no package. The fee is fixed and depends on the format and the length, never on who you are; I tell you what it is in the first, confidential conversation, before you decide. What is missing is everything else: no mandate that runs longer if you hesitate, no commission, no success fee, no career inside your company. That is why every one of your possible decisions is worth the same to me.
Why not simply talk to my wife or husband?
You should. But your partner is directly affected: money, time, where you live and whether you stay in Switzerland all hang on the decision. So he or she hears not only your question but its consequences for the life you share. A conversation with someone who has no share in the outcome does not replace that conversation; it often prepares it.
I’ve come into an inheritance, and the bank, the family office and my siblings all have a say. Who do I talk to about what I want?
Someone who earns nothing from any of the options. The bank and the family office work for you, but each with its own mandate; your siblings have plans of their own. That is legitimate, but not neutral. The same holds if your husband or wife runs a company and the specialists at the table work for the firm. In sparring you first get clear on what you yourself want; the legal and tax questions then go to your notary, lawyer or fiduciary (Treuhänder).
Does a sparring partner replace a board or a CEO peer group?
No. A board owes its loyalty to the company, a peer group lives on exchange among equals; both have their place. A sparring partner is for the question before that: what do you yourself want, and why are you hesitating? Once that is clear, you can put a sharper question to the board or the group.
Sources
- Harvard Business Review, 'CEOs Often Feel Lonely. Here's How They Can Cope', 23 December 2024 (109 CEOs of major Canadian organisations, 46 interviews) – hbr.org, consulted
- Fortune, 'Why CEO loneliness is bad for business', 29 June 2012 (RHR International, 100 CEOs, 41 percent) – fortune.com, consulted
- Thomas J. Saporito, 'It's Time to Acknowledge CEO Loneliness', Harvard Business Review, 15 February 2012 (RHR CEO Snapshot Survey, 83 US CEOs) – hbr.org, consulted
- TheYellowShoes, podcast episode #22 'Mit wem soll ich reden?' (German-language podcast for business owners) – podcast.de, consulted
- Art. 321 Swiss Criminal Code (breach of professional secrecy), Fedlex – fedlex.admin.ch, consulted
- Art. 717 Swiss Code of Obligations (duty of care and loyalty of the board), Fedlex – fedlex.admin.ch, consulted
- Art. 47 Swiss Banking Act (bank-client confidentiality), Fedlex – fedlex.admin.ch, consulted
- Chelini, formats and how it works, as of 30 October 2026 – chelini.ch, consulted
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